Comments on: Day 13: Early Proof of Concept http://www.kalzumeus.com/2008/06/13/day-13-early-proof-of-concept/ B2C stands for "Bingo To Customer" Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:44:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Richie Hindle http://www.kalzumeus.com/2008/06/13/day-13-early-proof-of-concept/#comment-1411 Richie Hindle Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:11:52 +0000 http://microisvjournal.wordpress.com/?p=416#comment-1411 Hi Patrick - I saw this on Ajaxian and thought of you (or at least, of Widget Bakery 8-) http://ajaxian.com/archives/yql-converting-the-web-to-json-with-mock-sql Sounds like a technology that could make your life easier. Hi Patrick – I saw this on Ajaxian and thought of you (or at least, of Widget Bakery 8-) http://ajaxian.com/archives/yql-converting-the-web-to-json-with-mock-sql

Sounds like a technology that could make your life easier.

]]> By: Richie Hindle http://www.kalzumeus.com/2008/06/13/day-13-early-proof-of-concept/#comment-1410 Richie Hindle Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:54:56 +0000 http://microisvjournal.wordpress.com/?p=416#comment-1410 It's that “Did you mean the list … ?” that makes me a bit skeptical. I've done a fair bit of web page parsing and spidering, and generically-applicable code to scrape content out of arbitrary web pages is hard. Especially when your users really really don't want to learn XPath. :-) I think the “Did you mean the list … ?” step is the proverbial step before "Profit" for this product. It’s that “Did you mean the list … ?” that makes me a bit skeptical. I’ve done a fair bit of web page parsing and spidering, and generically-applicable code to scrape content out of arbitrary web pages is hard. Especially when your users really really don’t want to learn XPath. :-)

I think the “Did you mean the list … ?” step is the proverbial step before “Profit” for this product.

]]> By: ColinM http://www.kalzumeus.com/2008/06/13/day-13-early-proof-of-concept/#comment-1409 ColinM Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:01:33 +0000 http://microisvjournal.wordpress.com/?p=416#comment-1409 You could probably have a nice little version wrapped up inside a wordpress plugin, as they are easy-peasy to install. But again it's the getting data into the widget in the first place that I think will prove the challenge. Interesting scraping idea though. You could probably have a nice little version wrapped up inside a wordpress plugin, as they are easy-peasy to install. But again it’s the getting data into the widget in the first place that I think will prove the challenge. Interesting scraping idea though.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.kalzumeus.com/2008/06/13/day-13-early-proof-of-concept/#comment-1408 Patrick Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:35:02 +0000 http://microisvjournal.wordpress.com/?p=416#comment-1408 This time, it was actually quite a bit of work for Bingo Hat. Once the product gets released, this example will be as simple as "type in the URL of the page whose list you want me to scrape" -> "Did you mean the list ... ?" -> "Pick a template for display of this information" -> "Right now your widget looks like this. That sound right to you?" -> "Here is the code!" This time, it was actually quite a bit of work for Bingo Hat. Once the product gets released, this example will be as simple as “type in the URL of the page whose list you want me to scrape” -> “Did you mean the list … ?” -> “Pick a template for display of this information” -> “Right now your widget looks like this. That sound right to you?” -> “Here is the code!”

]]> By: Richie Hindle http://www.kalzumeus.com/2008/06/13/day-13-early-proof-of-concept/#comment-1407 Richie Hindle Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:19:04 +0000 http://microisvjournal.wordpress.com/?p=416#comment-1407 "Before you click there, let me warn you: it is boring as all heck." You're really very wrong about that - it's very exciting! In fact your "boring" example is a lot more exciting than your initial description, which (rightly or wrongly) made me think of it as a Web 2.0 Shiny Button Thing. Now I've seen that it can carry unexciting *but useful* (as opposed to shiny but useless) content, I can start to see its real value. Now I need to figure out how I can apply it to any of my stuff. :-) And Sohail's right. I'd be interested to know how much work "Patrick with his Bingo Card Hat On" had to do in order to make "Patrick with his Widget Hat On"'s widget work with his content. “Before you click there, let me warn you: it is boring as all heck.” You’re really very wrong about that – it’s very exciting! In fact your “boring” example is a lot more exciting than your initial description, which (rightly or wrongly) made me think of it as a Web 2.0 Shiny Button Thing. Now I’ve seen that it can carry unexciting *but useful* (as opposed to shiny but useless) content, I can start to see its real value.

Now I need to figure out how I can apply it to any of my stuff. :-)

And Sohail’s right. I’d be interested to know how much work “Patrick with his Bingo Card Hat On” had to do in order to make “Patrick with his Widget Hat On”‘s widget work with his content.

]]> By: Sohail http://www.kalzumeus.com/2008/06/13/day-13-early-proof-of-concept/#comment-1406 Sohail Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:31:43 +0000 http://microisvjournal.wordpress.com/?p=416#comment-1406 I think it does show that quite nicely. You've gotta make it REALLY REALLY easy to use though. I think it does show that quite nicely. You’ve gotta make it REALLY REALLY easy to use though.

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