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		<title>By: SpamCop</title>
		<link>http://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/04/03/fantasy-tarsnap/#comment-14248</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2014 20:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SpamCop</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2014 20:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sigi</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2014 18:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My strong impression is that Colin Percival is not interested in creating a business.  He wants to invent cutting-edge technology (which he has) and showcase it to fellow geeks (which he does).  He is not interested in becoming an entrepreneur, and I can relate, because I&#039;m not either (which is not to say that I would be capable of coming up with something even remotely as clever as tarsnap).

It reminds me a bit of Dwarf Fortress, and it&#039;s author.

In its current form, Tarsnap appeals to a very small minority of crypto-nerds, and Patrick&#039;s article points out nicely that it is not suitable for &quot;serious business&quot; for a variety of reasons.

Hobby admins (such as myself) get more than enough security by using a tool like &quot;Duplicity&quot;, and there you have a broad range of cloud storage backends to choose from (some of them even have recurring billing!).  It&#039;s also easier to install than Tarsnap, and just as easy to use.

De-duplication also sounds a lot better on paper than it is in reality.  Sure, it&#039;s nice to have, and pretty much essential if you have large folders of video files that you constantly rename, but seriously, at the rates Amazon and Google charge for storage, who even cares?

Tarsnap just doesn&#039;t cover any reasonably-sized market *at all* at the moment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My strong impression is that Colin Percival is not interested in creating a business.  He wants to invent cutting-edge technology (which he has) and showcase it to fellow geeks (which he does).  He is not interested in becoming an entrepreneur, and I can relate, because I&#8217;m not either (which is not to say that I would be capable of coming up with something even remotely as clever as tarsnap).</p>
<p>It reminds me a bit of Dwarf Fortress, and it&#8217;s author.</p>
<p>In its current form, Tarsnap appeals to a very small minority of crypto-nerds, and Patrick&#8217;s article points out nicely that it is not suitable for &#8220;serious business&#8221; for a variety of reasons.</p>
<p>Hobby admins (such as myself) get more than enough security by using a tool like &#8220;Duplicity&#8221;, and there you have a broad range of cloud storage backends to choose from (some of them even have recurring billing!).  It&#8217;s also easier to install than Tarsnap, and just as easy to use.</p>
<p>De-duplication also sounds a lot better on paper than it is in reality.  Sure, it&#8217;s nice to have, and pretty much essential if you have large folders of video files that you constantly rename, but seriously, at the rates Amazon and Google charge for storage, who even cares?</p>
<p>Tarsnap just doesn&#8217;t cover any reasonably-sized market *at all* at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Contract War Hack</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2014 02:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tom Steele</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2014 02:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rafael,

I think you missed the tone of the article and the relationship that Colin and Patrick have... Patrick says he loves Tarsnap but he sees ways it could be (in his opinion) better for customers and better for Colin.

He&#039;s not complaining that Colin should change it for Patrick. He&#039;s saying Colin should change it for Colon and perhaps the customers.

Personally, I think many of the suggested changes would be good, but Colin clearly likes what he is doing, so perhaps Colin could offer Tarsnap as another rebranded product completely separate from Tarsnap and not mess with Tarsnap at all. Just create a name, (Pansrat for this silly exercise ) logo and offer the same service as Tarsnap with the different price structure. Don&#039;t make it commonly known that you are the same people and just see...

A. Does Colin enjoy running Pansrat?
B. Does Colin make more/enough/whatever money with Pansrat?
C. Does Colin end up feeling good about Pansrat and what it offers it&#039;s new breed of customers?

Tom Steele]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rafael,</p>
<p>I think you missed the tone of the article and the relationship that Colin and Patrick have&#8230; Patrick says he loves Tarsnap but he sees ways it could be (in his opinion) better for customers and better for Colin.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not complaining that Colin should change it for Patrick. He&#8217;s saying Colin should change it for Colon and perhaps the customers.</p>
<p>Personally, I think many of the suggested changes would be good, but Colin clearly likes what he is doing, so perhaps Colin could offer Tarsnap as another rebranded product completely separate from Tarsnap and not mess with Tarsnap at all. Just create a name, (Pansrat for this silly exercise ) logo and offer the same service as Tarsnap with the different price structure. Don&#8217;t make it commonly known that you are the same people and just see&#8230;</p>
<p>A. Does Colin enjoy running Pansrat?<br />
B. Does Colin make more/enough/whatever money with Pansrat?<br />
C. Does Colin end up feeling good about Pansrat and what it offers it&#8217;s new breed of customers?</p>
<p>Tom Steele</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2014 22:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are a fantastic writer.  I know little about the subject matter but was laughing out loud.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Folge 6: 5 Bücher, die euch als Micropreneur weiterbringen - Nebenberuf Startup</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Folge 6: 5 Bücher, die euch als Micropreneur weiterbringen - Nebenberuf Startup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2014 09:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Patrick McKenzie &#8211; &quot;What I would do if I ran Tarsnap&quot; [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Scott D</title>
		<link>http://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/04/03/fantasy-tarsnap/#comment-13853</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2014 04:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I get the &quot;charge more&quot; mantra, I really do. When i get to a certain level of business, I will have enterprise plans at levels higher than &quot;the price of the service&quot;. But part of me is sad that some of the services I would love to be able to try have starting price points of $100/month to $500/month.  (Visual Website Optimizer, Hubspot, etc)

I get the Enterprise is where the money is, but I can&#039;t afford Enterprise money for my &quot;not yet really earning much revenue&quot; business. It&#039;s refreshing when companies offer $10/month plans for just starting out. (Thank you Hootsuite and Buffer.)

I hope this &quot;$10/month customers are bloodsuckers who are not worth the hassle&quot; doesn&#039;t infect the industry much more than it is. Sounds like you yourself use some of these companies in your business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the &#8220;charge more&#8221; mantra, I really do. When i get to a certain level of business, I will have enterprise plans at levels higher than &#8220;the price of the service&#8221;. But part of me is sad that some of the services I would love to be able to try have starting price points of $100/month to $500/month.  (Visual Website Optimizer, Hubspot, etc)</p>
<p>I get the Enterprise is where the money is, but I can&#8217;t afford Enterprise money for my &#8220;not yet really earning much revenue&#8221; business. It&#8217;s refreshing when companies offer $10/month plans for just starting out. (Thank you Hootsuite and Buffer.)</p>
<p>I hope this &#8220;$10/month customers are bloodsuckers who are not worth the hassle&#8221; doesn&#8217;t infect the industry much more than it is. Sounds like you yourself use some of these companies in your business.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/04/03/fantasy-tarsnap/#comment-13849</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2014 22:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also find the suggested change in website design ridiculous, the current one screams of clean functionality, something that reflects the mentality and implementation of the tarsnap utility, and something i can appreciate as a software developer who is backing up his own private software. The utility is a &quot;crusty&quot; old UNIX tool, exactly as intended and it fits in the model of a UNIX system perfectly. Bundling it with a GUI would be terrible, i&#039;m not however opposed to a separate GUI wrapper. But the core utility should be exactly what it is (for a unix system atleast)

The suggested design screams of polished crap that focuses more on marketing than function which i&#039;m personally very tired of and avoid in products that i purchase.

The segmented pricing model is also something that i&#039;ve been actively avoiding from other backup services. I personally don&#039;t know what my usage is going to be, and the idea of paying up front for 50$ isn&#039;t interesting to me, as i&#039;d risk filling the backup up, making future backups fail.

Also, i like the picodollar pricing model, it seems honest and to the point of practical implementation, something that i love in software.

There aren&#039;t many services like tarsnap out there, and some of the changes you&#039;re suggesting would move his business closer to all those other backup services out there that i&#039;ve actively chosen not to use. 

I do however agree that deleting the repo after a 7 day period is a bit strong, and an automated billing model would be very useful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also find the suggested change in website design ridiculous, the current one screams of clean functionality, something that reflects the mentality and implementation of the tarsnap utility, and something i can appreciate as a software developer who is backing up his own private software. The utility is a &#8220;crusty&#8221; old UNIX tool, exactly as intended and it fits in the model of a UNIX system perfectly. Bundling it with a GUI would be terrible, i&#8217;m not however opposed to a separate GUI wrapper. But the core utility should be exactly what it is (for a unix system atleast)</p>
<p>The suggested design screams of polished crap that focuses more on marketing than function which i&#8217;m personally very tired of and avoid in products that i purchase.</p>
<p>The segmented pricing model is also something that i&#8217;ve been actively avoiding from other backup services. I personally don&#8217;t know what my usage is going to be, and the idea of paying up front for 50$ isn&#8217;t interesting to me, as i&#8217;d risk filling the backup up, making future backups fail.</p>
<p>Also, i like the picodollar pricing model, it seems honest and to the point of practical implementation, something that i love in software.</p>
<p>There aren&#8217;t many services like tarsnap out there, and some of the changes you&#8217;re suggesting would move his business closer to all those other backup services out there that i&#8217;ve actively chosen not to use. </p>
<p>I do however agree that deleting the repo after a 7 day period is a bit strong, and an automated billing model would be very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/04/03/fantasy-tarsnap/#comment-13848</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2014 20:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for publishing this Patrick! This mentality commonly held by developers is so twisted and negative, it makes me embarrassed to call myself a developer!

I certainly got a little worked up while reading this, I felt like I wanted to yell out in agreement.

This article may be about Colin, but its really not about Colin...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for publishing this Patrick! This mentality commonly held by developers is so twisted and negative, it makes me embarrassed to call myself a developer!</p>
<p>I certainly got a little worked up while reading this, I felt like I wanted to yell out in agreement.</p>
<p>This article may be about Colin, but its really not about Colin&#8230;</p>
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